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Balbir Thu, 03 Jan 2019 15:10:15 GMT +5.5

Choice to take retirement is individual option. But, making 58 against terms given in option is not ethical and indeed a cheating. Untenable legally also.

Why not it be demanded as a VR Scheme??

When VR Scheme comes which is beneficial, whether willing people will ignore it???

kusumam Tue, 01 Jan 2019 14:35:00 GMT +5.5

what is wrong in reducing the retirement age to 58? 99% of staff are willing to go. Pl. support this proposal and PRC will be implemented in bsnl

Prakash Fri, 28 Dec 2018 16:18:00 GMT +5.5

Balbirji, DoT letter point (v) shows that DoT itself admits that there is cut throat competition which is affecting us. This means even knowing all these reality, owner questions to deny everything for the company. Option needs to be demanded as withdrawn and optees moved back to DoT.

Further, all these 20 years, not a penny is claimed for rural lossy operations which only has made BSNL loss making, after evaporating cash surplus of over Rs.40,000 Crore at PSU starting point instance.

Time has come for all Assns to demand rural loss compensation for all these years and to be paid henceforth regularly every month if to continue service in those areas.

Decision is vital, crucial and unavoidable only and atleast now

Balbir Fri, 28 Dec 2018 16:03:51 GMT +5.5

Queries sent to DoT as letter is out and seems PRC is a canard if it goes in this pace.

Now, one Assn has updated that BSNL proposed to reduce retirement age to 58 and as Pankaj has correctly tracked.

Conditions one by one to implement PRC, seems being thrust on BSNL.

In case 58, then there will be great injustice for opted BSNL Executives. Further, as per PO, when BSNL & DoT combined service is Govt Service for optees, similar reduction for everyone in BSNL, be non-optee or optee, is only justified.

Other chance for Assns is to demand VRS for BSNL optees.

In this situation, promotion to DGM is a bait for senior Executives who are 56 plus.

All Assns to explore safeguards to achieve PRC first rather than hanging for any other issue including promotion or cadre hierarchy or 4G spectrum. When personal safety itself is in question, looking any other side demand is only self detrimental.

When retirees vye for 7th CPC pension, Assns to demand optees in Service to be paid on 7th CPC increase if 3rd PRC turns out to be lossy one.

Pankaj Fri, 28 Dec 2018 12:34:37 GMT +5.5

DE to DGM orders expected to be issued shortly.

How many to get is not clear. Some say 770 and others 891.

Claim by Assns is for all who completed 4 Yrs regular service as DE. Now, not sure of what is to come.

Also, the real contention is that any promotion in PSU is to be only on Regular. Why Adhoc? What is the stand of Assns?

When Adhoc, if any promtted Adhoc DGM retires, his substantive grade will only be STS not JAG. Then what is the fun in taking Adhoc promotions.

Hence, Assns must fight to get only Regular Promotion to DGMs please.

The current letter in circulation on 3rd PRC contains wordings on reduction of retirement age to 58.

Hence, in case reduced age of retirement, most of those in this list will retire and get affected without the effect of DGM promotion. This be taken serious note off by all Assns

Balbir Thu, 20 Dec 2018 13:42:30 GMT +5.5

Chandigarh stay vacated. But, case posted to Mar'19, verdict not delivered.

AO to CAO, stay for implementing catch up rule has come as per a website update.

As per media reports:
Catch up rule is applicable to all Cadres and Grades, as per Apex court ruling.

Catch up rule says promotion must only be as per percentage representation not reservation.

Santhosh Kumarji,

In Maharashtra and Kerala, on implementation of catch up rule, many thousands of employees are revised and brought down in seniority with reversion of promotion

Prakash Wed, 19 Dec 2018 17:26:41 GMT +5.5

No Assn / Union updating status of 3rd PRC.

Its a serious matter of concern for everyone.

Please do update to remove anxiety

Santhosh Kumar Tue, 18 Dec 2018 13:17:13 GMT +5.5

Can anyone throw light on catch up rule and how it is implemented to fix the seniority please?

People tell that this has been implemented by MH and Kerala State Govts. Is it a fact and in which case what was the implications?

Balbir Tue, 04 Dec 2018 16:15:10 GMT +5.5

Strike deferred may be beyond 10.12.18??

None of the demand has come fruitful and and hope not to get hoodwinked.

Main agenda of 3rd PRC also drags.

Rumors that Pension for BSNL retirees will be on CDA is in rounds. Here also, only on seeing the implementation orders, how far is it going to be advantageous for retirees can be seen.

Assns please keep close tab not to get diluted or muted. The built-up tempo has to be kept up to achieve for us. Without pressure, we only will be under pressure forever.

Prakash Thu, 29 Nov 2018 12:07:57 GMT +5.5

Forum in which our Assn is forming part rightly raised 4th valid point, immediate repatriation. But, Why claim on compensation on rural losses is not taken up, atleast in this Forum???

Repatriation is an important point as our organization is at this state only because of these fencesitters who got promotted at the cost of promottes (with entire promotion including promottee vs Direct Rect promotion quota ratio fully gobbled by them) to sit at this level and from not being accommodated in any other CG Dept., The are now non-committal, indifferent and inefficient unlike their seniors with field experience as ADET near a decade.

Many deputationists not meeting State Govt Dept officers (though not any IAS) to resolve many issues like right of way permission, etc.,

In case PRC implementation is prospective but not from 1.1.17, similar treatment for them also.

Despite our PO assured career and financial prospects at any time but losing it now, we must claim annulment of absorption to get CG service so that we get all benefits. Why not also move legally??

Today's unconfirmed news is that Nov'18 salary for MTNL personnel is deferred. Also, one BSNL Circle Head prefers 10% pay cut for his staff to meet Electricity and other bills

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